1.0 focus
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Dazza1
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Cars gonna be ****
Dazza1
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Think how much that car weighs 1L turbo that's just badDaveyb133":biyzeqe1 said:
I'm all for forced induction engines but I can't help thinking that a 1.0 turbo would be a bit gash in a car the size of a Ford Focus even if it does make more bhp than the old 1.6 engines.
For example driving the Twingo 1.2 turbo, it's biggest flaw is 1st gear. You try and put your foot down and it fires you forward but before you know it you're out of revs and going for 2nd. 2nd is then rather short and it's only when you get into 3rd gear upwards if doesn't feel like a 1.2 litre engine. It's far from slow but it still feels like a little engine.
Now that's not the end of the world in a small car, they're meant to have small engines but in a Focus what you used to get from the Focus 1.6 (my mum also had one) was a car with long gears and adequate power. Not fast but it drove well.
I'm guessing the 1.0 engine is strengthened internally and with 120bhp if they gear it right to feel like a 1.6 it could work. But if it's got the characteristics of the 1.2 turbo in the Twingo, it'll be sh!t! lol
For example driving the Twingo 1.2 turbo, it's biggest flaw is 1st gear. You try and put your foot down and it fires you forward but before you know it you're out of revs and going for 2nd. 2nd is then rather short and it's only when you get into 3rd gear upwards if doesn't feel like a 1.2 litre engine. It's far from slow but it still feels like a little engine.
Now that's not the end of the world in a small car, they're meant to have small engines but in a Focus what you used to get from the Focus 1.6 (my mum also had one) was a car with long gears and adequate power. Not fast but it drove well.
I'm guessing the 1.0 engine is strengthened internally and with 120bhp if they gear it right to feel like a 1.6 it could work. But if it's got the characteristics of the 1.2 turbo in the Twingo, it'll be sh!t! lol
Yeah dunno about insurance groups on it. I mean in theory these forced induction smaller engines are meant to be cheaper to insure but if they're putting out the same power as a 1.6 or higher then the insurers will surely catch on and increase the premiums!
That said, a Focus with £35 a year road tax would be nice. I can see the advantage in cars like this, I mean if it had a 6 speed box you could cruise along at 70mph, still at low revs and impressive MPG figures.
That said, a Focus with £35 a year road tax would be nice. I can see the advantage in cars like this, I mean if it had a 6 speed box you could cruise along at 70mph, still at low revs and impressive MPG figures.
singlespeed
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F1 engines are being reduced in size from 2.4L V8, down to 1.6L V6 in 2014 as a nod towards environmental greenness. Yet, the cars will have similar power to this seasons cars. ..
The problem being a race engine will be kept on the boil, probably running between 2.5 and 4bar of boost whereas a road car engine is going to be going from idle up to mid range revs for most of it's life. Huge boost presures to get more power usualy mean huge amounts of turbo lag or getting your gear selection and foot down early to wring the living daylights out of it, which would make it a real pain in the rear.
If theres something clever like an additional motor (like the KERS system) or a supercharger/turbo combination to assist low rev performance, it could be a hoot.
Or it could be a gutless wonder like so many larger cars with the base engine
The problem being a race engine will be kept on the boil, probably running between 2.5 and 4bar of boost whereas a road car engine is going to be going from idle up to mid range revs for most of it's life. Huge boost presures to get more power usualy mean huge amounts of turbo lag or getting your gear selection and foot down early to wring the living daylights out of it, which would make it a real pain in the rear.
If theres something clever like an additional motor (like the KERS system) or a supercharger/turbo combination to assist low rev performance, it could be a hoot.
Or it could be a gutless wonder like so many larger cars with the base engine
The idea of twin charging is a great idea, minimise lag from a larger turbo. Chances are though it'll have a relatively small turbo to minimise lag and just not be all that powerful. Then again nearly 130bhp from a 1.0 is quite something.
I guess gearing has something to do with it as well though? For example 1st gear in the RS Twingo is ideal but in the 1.2 turbo it's too short and snappy.
I guess gearing has something to do with it as well though? For example 1st gear in the RS Twingo is ideal but in the 1.2 turbo it's too short and snappy.
Hahaha you could be on to something there mate!
I have often wondered this about a lot of turbo charged cars. Most people don't even check the oil year to year let alone know to warm a car up before driving it hard or indeed letting a turbo cool. That said how many different cars did the VAG 1.8T engine appear in and they seem to go on and on.
That said, my Megane 225 has a an electric turbo timer which whirrs away should the engine be hot when you stop. I prefer to let it cool down with the engine running but I wonder if these new turbo'd engines will do anything similar?
I have often wondered this about a lot of turbo charged cars. Most people don't even check the oil year to year let alone know to warm a car up before driving it hard or indeed letting a turbo cool. That said how many different cars did the VAG 1.8T engine appear in and they seem to go on and on.
That said, my Megane 225 has a an electric turbo timer which whirrs away should the engine be hot when you stop. I prefer to let it cool down with the engine running but I wonder if these new turbo'd engines will do anything similar?
The Megane 225 has a cold rev limited that stops you going beyond 4,000rpm. No doubt the 250 has the same.
I've never hit it but plenty of questions on MeganeSport.net from people wondering why their car wouldn't rev higher at certain times! :shock:
I've never hit it but plenty of questions on MeganeSport.net from people wondering why their car wouldn't rev higher at certain times! :shock: