ebc greenstuff or yellowstuff ?

[oscar]

Which would be better for spirited driving and occasional trackdays? Hear alot about them but never had them. Seem reasonably priced too

 

[ollieallen]

I had greenstuff before on a Saxo (not high class I know) and they weren't the best although they were cheap.

I got 2 pairs of front and rear Ferodo DS2500 pads from K-Tec for about £230. Waiting to fit them still but from what I've heard they're pretty awesome.

 

[Araf]

You don't get something for nothing, these days. EBC pads would be more expensive, if EBC thought they could charge it. I haven't used them for about 15 years, since a bad experience - and will never use them again.

 

[mrbushrat]

Keep away from them had them on a road rally car and faded them and they are poor cold! Just stick with Renault pads. If u can fade them on the road and track your braking far to much!

 

[oscar]

Problem is i have budget tyres for daily drives to work and it rains alot and you hardly need to touch the brakes when its heavily raining for the abs to frighten the life out of me so i wanted to get some maxxis or toyos and ebc upgrade pads. Do you think i could grip more and brake a fair bit harder in the wet with good tyres before the abs would kick in?

 

[mrbushrat]

Get better tires for a start. Toyo proxes are good in the wet. Always spend money on good tires!

 

[Twingogangster83]

Best brake Pads are useless without good Tyres.

 

[singlespeed]

Problem is i have budget tyres for daily drives to work and it rains alot and you hardly need to touch the brakes when its heavily raining for the abs to frighten the life out of me so i wanted to get some maxxis or toyos and ebc upgrade pads. Do you think i could grip more and brake a fair bit harder in the wet with good tyres before the abs would kick in?

Budget tyres :roll: Yes, of course you could grip more and brake harder in the wet with decent tyres. Did you really need to ask?

 

[oscar]

Problem is i have budget tyres for daily drives to work and it rains alot and you hardly need to touch the brakes when its heavily raining for the abs to frighten the life out of me so i wanted to get some maxxis or toyos and ebc upgrade pads. Do you think i could grip more and brake a fair bit harder in the wet with good tyres before the abs would kick in?

Budget tyres :roll: Yes, of course you could grip more and brake harder in the wet with decent tyres. Did you really need to ask?

Lol what pads do you use back on topic

 

[singlespeed]

I would have stuck with the OE renault ones (which are possibly a different compound for the 1.2 calipers) but since the engine work, I'm now on DS2500. Running on Yokohama AD08 tyres which are actually quite good in the damp but poor in standing water.

 

[Araf]

How 'budget' are your tyres?

They are the only part of the car in contact with the ground, so you really should use something that you can have faith in.

I use Uniroyals. Not expensive, but very good in the wet.

 

[oscar]

Avon zv3's which are fair tyres mid rangers nothing special but getting low on tread so i really want to get some ebc yellows and grooved black brembo discs to go with new alloys. Looking at rota grids so i best get some premium rubber onto them. Cup of tea and a browse through the tyre review on here lol

 

[singlespeed]

Avon zv3's which are fair tyres mid rangers nothing special but getting low on tread so i really want to get some ebc yellows and grooved black brembo discs to go with new alloys. Looking at rota grids so i best get some premium rubber onto them. Cup of tea and a browse through the tyre review on here lol

Michelin PS3 are well rated by the Clio Trophy boys. I was torn between these and the AD08 but went 08 which have a much stiffer sidewall and havent been disappointed in the feel or performance. However, they will be comming off for winter.

Toyo T1R get good and bad reviews with as many people loving or hating them. For the price, they are decent in the dry but lacking in the wet.

Reviews on tyrereview.co.uk for the Avon arent very flattering.

 

[maggi200]

I've always found t1r better than expected in the wet, and worse than expected in the dry.

I think tyre size and what someone thinks is budget is required on that one.

Back on topic, I'll never go ebc again myself. No improvement over oem on my last car, none of the benefits advertised

 

[oscar]

Might give the ebc a sideswerve and look into brembo or ferodos not high end ones but something better than oem tha doesnt throw of as much brake dust as oem. Have any of you guys got or had slotted / grooved discs?

 

[singlespeed]

Might give the ebc a sideswerve and look into brembo or ferodos not high end ones but something better than oem tha doesnt throw of as much brake dust as oem. Have any of you guys got or had slotted / grooved discs?

Prioritise what you want as, with both brakes and tyres there's a trade off somewhere.

Supposedly low dusting pads will still produce dust, as the pad and disc is wearing away when they are working. Depending on the OE compound, they may produce slightly less or a lot less dust but probably with a trade off of less bite/feel.

Not all Brembo / Ferrodo pads are good. Theres some awful cheap or low spec OE compounds, likewise theres decent OE compounds on the likes of Porsche etc.

As you have said above, the standard pads have more braking power than you have grip. Unless your overheating them with prolonged use, just get some new ones from Renault. Overheating worn pads and discs doesn't really count as they are worn

Groved discs look cool but theres little benefit nowadays as pads tend to gas off less than they used to 20years ago. Wet and muddy rally etc, they will help clean the pads. Otherwise, they may give slightly better initial bite but will just help to wear them down quicker.

 

[oscar]

Good point thank you man will pop into renault tomorrow to get the best oem pads they can do me

 

[Dubz]

Good point thank you man will pop into renault tomorrow to get the best oem pads they can do me

Renault gave me 2 different prices for the same pads. Ask for aftermarket genuine Renault pads. One price was £246 including fitting and the other was £132 which was be far the cheapest quote I got

 

[oscar]

Good point thank you man will pop into renault tomorrow to get the best oem pads they can do me

Renault gave me 2 different prices for the same pads. Ask for aftermarket genuine Renault pads. One price was £246 including fitting and the other was £132 which was be far the cheapest quote I got

Only going to ask for the product number from renault so that i can get them through trade price from uncles garage. I always remember when he ordered pads for me he would ask while on the phone "want the good pads or cheap pads?" cheap skate that i am i went for cheap ones