How much are the original windows tinted?

[1975DCS]

How much are the original windows tinted? Has anyone found out? My dad suggested to tint the front side windows as well, but I think they are already tinted close to the max in Holland 55-70% of light needs go through. I think the rears are pretty dark and are not allowed on the door windows...

 

[maggi200]

They wouldn't be able to I don't think, if you have tints on the back often it stops a lot of light passing through the front someone told me. So you wouldn't be able to get Any done legally I wouldn't Think.

Stand to be corrected, just what i was told

 

[Courtney]

You can have the front ones done, but only a little bit.

When I had mine done because the back ones are SO dark there is no need for the front ones to be done as well as it already seems a lot darker.

 

[1975DCS]

Yes, the front look pretty dark too, I thought it would be nice to have an "allround" look, but the rears are very dark indeed! Are the rears coated, foiled or just factory made dark glass BTW?

 

[singlespeed]

The UK is 70% light transmision through the glass (30% opacity) for the windows forwards of the B-pillar including any coating/film. Most UK traffic police now carry or have access to a VLT tester to do a roadside check.

Non cup models with tinted rear glas, its is a dark glass, not a film

 

[Ricey]

You can have the front ones done, but only a little bit.

When I had mine done because the back ones are SO dark there is no need for the front ones to be done as well as it already seems a lot darker.

Sorry but I am afraid that is wrong. In the UK you are not allowed to front one's tinted at all! If they have a mark that says AS2 on the window then they are already tinted to the maximum limit allowed. And most manufactuers including everyone on heres Twingo's have that on theirs. I know this as when I had my saxo I had tints on the front and got pulled over and received 3 points and a £60 fine. CU20. So my advice if you have a loud exhaust or your car brings any sort of attention from the police then don't bother because they will do you for it.

 

[singlespeed]

The 'AS' marking is an American standard. After some digging and getting lost, going round and round, I found >>this<< which was linked from the ANSI site. Page 8 mentions the light transmision test for auto glass, which must transmit at least 70% of light

5.2 Luminous Transmittance, Test 2
5.2.1 Purpose of Test. The purpose of this test is to determine
the regular (parallel) luminous transmittance of safety glazing
materials intended for use in motor vehicles at levels requisite for
driving visibility.

5.2.3 Interpretation of Results. Safety glazing materials or
multiple glazed units intended for use at levels requisite for
driving visibility in the motor vehicle shall show regular (parallel)
luminous transmittance of not less than 70% of the light, at
normal incidence,

AS1 and AS2 glass both need to pass the light transmision test, but AS1 also needs to pass the optical distortion and also the penetration test. AS1 glass could be used on any window, but is normaly only seen on windscreens.

Clear glass could be graded as AS1 or AS2, as it transmits at least 70% light and therefore meets the test criteria. In that case a 30% tint could be applied to make it 70% transmition.


So, anyone know tint what renault have used?

 

[gsidave]

Surly nobody needs gangsta windows on a twingo. Could understand if this was a range rover owners site but hey ho what do I know.

 

[Ricey]

The 'AS' marking is an American standard. After some digging and getting lost, going round and round, I found >>this<< which was linked from the ANSI site. Page 8 mentions the light transmision test for auto glass, which must transmit at least 70% of light

5.2 Luminous Transmittance, Test 2
5.2.1 Purpose of Test. The purpose of this test is to determine
the regular (parallel) luminous transmittance of safety glazing
materials intended for use in motor vehicles at levels requisite for
driving visibility.

5.2.3 Interpretation of Results. Safety glazing materials or
multiple glazed units intended for use at levels requisite for
driving visibility in the motor vehicle shall show regular (parallel)
luminous transmittance of not less than 70% of the light, at
normal incidence,

AS1 and AS2 glass both need to pass the light transmision test, but AS1 also needs to pass the optical distortion and also the penetration test. AS1 glass could be used on any window, but is normaly only seen on windscreens.

Clear glass could be graded as AS1 or AS2, as it transmits at least 70% light and therefore meets the test criteria. In that case a 30% tint could be applied to make it 70% transmition.


So, anyone know tint what renault have used?

Fair enough but just be careful that's all I can say as I received 3 points for having tints on the front two windows. It was massively researched by a couple of friends who are in the civi bill and they couldn't get me out of it.

 

[singlespeed]

The 'AS' marking is an American standard. After some digging and getting lost, going round and round, I found >>this<< which was linked from the ANSI site. Page 8 mentions the light transmision test for auto glass, which must transmit at least 70% of light

5.2 Luminous Transmittance, Test 2
5.2.1 Purpose of Test. The purpose of this test is to determine
the regular (parallel) luminous transmittance of safety glazing
materials intended for use in motor vehicles at levels requisite for
driving visibility.

5.2.3 Interpretation of Results. Safety glazing materials or
multiple glazed units intended for use at levels requisite for
driving visibility in the motor vehicle shall show regular (parallel)
luminous transmittance of not less than 70% of the light, at
normal incidence,

AS1 and AS2 glass both need to pass the light transmision test, but AS1 also needs to pass the optical distortion and also the penetration test. AS1 glass could be used on any window, but is normaly only seen on windscreens.

Clear glass could be graded as AS1 or AS2, as it transmits at least 70% light and therefore meets the test criteria. In that case a 30% tint could be applied to make it 70% transmition.


So, anyone know tint what renault have used?

Fair enough but just be careful that's all I can say as I received 3 points for having tints on the front two windows. It was massively researched by a couple of friends who are in the civi bill and they couldn't get me out of it.

but what level of total tint did you have? Substantialy less than 70% ?

 

[Ricey]

Yes I did, my tints only let 3% of light through. But the law is that no tints are allowed on the front two windows what so ever.

 

[gsidave]

Sorry guys the law is there for one reason only on this and that's safety.

 

[Ricey]

Sorry guys the law is there for one reason only on this and that's safety.

Am I right though Dave? Because that is what I was told that you could not have any sort of extra tint onto the front two windows.

Not that it botheres me as I wasn't intending on having it done but just don't want other people having to have 3 points on their licence like I had.

 

[gsidave]

I'm not 100% on the tinting law but 70% light comes to mind and most standard front windows already are at that point so tinting further is braking the law and making you car harder to drive.
And what happens if people can't see somebody becuase of a tint film and knock someone over ??? 3 points is a warning don't tint front windows. Rant over.

 

[singlespeed]

Am I right though Dave? Because that is what I was told that you could not have any sort of extra tint onto the front two windows.

For UK law, you maybe correct, but it would depend on what level of tint the original glass has :?

The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, part 2, section E regulation 32
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/part/II/chapter/E/made
The windscreens or other windows constructed in accordance with the foregoing provisions of this regulation of specified safety glass, specified safety glass (1980) or safety glazing and specified in column 3 of Table II in relation to a vehicle of a class specified in column 2 of that Table shall have a visual transmission for light of not less than the percentage specified in relation to those windows in column 4 when measured perpendicular to the surface in accordance with the procedure specified in a document specified in relation to those windows in column 5

Motor vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1985 and trailers
(a) Windscreens 75% visual transmision
(b) All other windows 70% visual transmision

Because there was no mention of films applied to the glass, the law was vague about the aplication of tinted film as it was only the glazed element which was mentioned in law, untill a fatal accident was attributed to a lack of vision due to excesive tints on the front windows...


So in 2003, the regulation was ammended to add a paragraph which became law on 1st Jan 2004

Amendment of regulation 32 (windscreens and other windows)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/3145/regulation/3/made

After regulation 32(11), there shall be inserted the following paragraph—

“(11A) Paragraphs (10) and (11) have effect in relation to any tint, film or other substance or material applied to a windscreen or window as they have effect in relation to the windscreen or window itself.”

So now any front windows must transmit a minimum of 70% of light, wether covered with any type of film or not Anything more than a security film would probably go beyond the 70% limit, as even a light smoke tint will be too much when applied to pre-tinted glass



As a side note:-
Any window that is excesively tinted (less than 30% transmision) will earn an imediate prohibition untill the fault is rectified, and points/fine.
Less severe tints, between 30% and 70% would receive a delayed prohibition or rectification notice, sometimes a fine/points

 

[singlespeed]

Sorry Daniël, still no actual figure for the level of tint for the front windows as supplied by Renault

 

[1975DCS]

That's ok, maybe I will fin anyone with one of those meters and I will post the results online!

 

[singlespeed]

I called in to my local window tinting place on the way back home, to ask.

Whilst he didn't have a meter, he did say that the majority of newer vehicles have 75% transmision side windows (the same level as the windscreen limit). So you could apply a layer of celotape and be close to or over the limit.

Clear security film is about all you can get away with in the UK

 

[1975DCS]

Yes, I think the same applies for Holland too...

 

[maggi200]

Thread revival. What level are they? I want to match the standard cars to complete my storm trooper look!