twingo wheel alignment?

[Twingojoe]

May go to get my tracking and alignment checked after my little incident involving an old person and a micra and a kerb.

Thing ia if i take it somewhere i assume they will know how to set up a twingo rs to its factory settings?

If not does anyone have that info because then when they give me the printout i can see if its been done right?

 

[DrDrew]

Don't know whether Neil's alignment printouts will help you. Have a look at the results at the bottom of this thread..

https://www.twingo133.net/how/camber-adjustment-with-eibach-excentric-bolts-t5776.html

 

[Twingojoe]

I didnt understand that? Surely the wheels should be the same on both sides?

 

[DrDrew]

You would ideally want identical on both sides, but there's going to be tiny differences in each. Don't forget on those images that it's done in degrees and minutes (i presume), with there being 60minutes in a degree.

i.e.
0:00
0:01
0:02
...
0:58
0:59
1:00
1:01
...

so the -0:58 and the -1:02 are only 0:04 different.

 

[singlespeed]

I didnt understand that? Surely the wheels should be the same on both sides?

In an ideal world, they would be exactly the same both sides and precicely as the designer intended. However that would mean having everything adjustable, not just the toe angles. a tollerance either side of perfect is still usable for most of the angles without compromising handling too much.

As standard, theres only front toe angles that are adjustable unless you want to start moving the whole subframe about to get camber and caster equal.

 

[Araf]

I didnt understand that? Surely the wheels should be the same on both sides?

Only if roads were flat.

 

[singlespeed]

pulling down slightly on the front bumper is enough to change the angles by a couple of minutes

 

[Twingojoe]

Blimey so i probably havent really knocked it out that much at all as the steering still stays straight and the blow was almost side on and i think the tyre took most of the impact which is good.

Bloody micra drivers

 

[davie88GT]

Most garages should have auto data, and its wheel alignment information is readily available so don't worry

 

[RS133]

Since having 2 new tyres on the front, I've notices my steering wheel is slightly turned to the right in order to get my wheels straight, I this a tracking problem too? Or a slightly more sinister one?

 

[singlespeed]

Unless you had the tracking adjusted with the new tyres, simply changing the tyres shouldn't affect the tracking unless the tracking was previously adjusted to compensate for one bald tyre and one new... Your probably just more aware of the offset.

If theres a camber on the road, you will often find the steering wheel sits slightly to the right as the car would naturaly drift down to the left hand gutter (uk roads) without any correction being made.
Different tyre brands and patterns across the axle could make a difference. However I guess it was a matched pair you fitted.
Different tyre pressures or amounts of tread left could also make a difference.

 

[MovingShadow]

Btw, with the new coilovers it took me 3 tries before I got my car lined-out.

Having no Wind yet in their system, I told them to use the alignement from a "Twingo RS without sport suspension" (thats how it was written in the PC).

1st Tire garage was incompetent and couldn't even fix my camber.

Went to a second one and he managed to fix it all but even though everything was in the green and placed straight , my car deviated to the right.

Went back and he changed the front right wheel (still within the green) to the left.

There was still something out of alignement (can't explain it in English) but the guy from the tire garage said it doesn't really affect your tire wear and that it's not that important. But he said if I wanted to fix that I'd have to bring it to a Renault garage because it's from a solid piece of your suspension blade or whatever it's called.