Cold start issue, the first minutes after the start

[1975DCS]

I have just finished my first weeks of driving and I still like it very much. There is just one thing: the cold start issue, the first minutes after the start it doesn't really want to go, idling is ok but a bit to much throttle results in bogging the car at let's say around 2000 rpm. Any glues? I do hear a lot of people complaining about idling when cold, is the same issue?

 

[Daveyb133]

Yes mate. It's the same. They all suffer with it.

 

[Sharpy]

revs are limited when its cold mate, all them are.

 

[madmatt]

Aye, mine does the same. Moving off, it's fine until the revs hit about 2/2.5k and it's as if it's oil has been replaced with treacle. Car just bogs down.

Fine after a couple of minutes though easy remedy....DON'T REV THE NUTS OFF IT FROM COLD! :lol:

 

[weebob]

Mine was incredibly bad yesterday. Too the point it nearly cut out. Smelt of petrol a bit as well. Wonder if a remap will clean it up a little.

 

[maggi200]

I love mine when cold. Everything feels sensitive, fragile, like it needs mothering and nuturing until it "wakes" up/warms up. The smallest adjustment to the throttle sees pedestrians running out of the road thinking they're gonna get run over :lol: kangarooing as you pull away and everyone already looking... not something for everyone I guess but I love it

Mines never felt like it's gonna cut out though.

 

[jra3d]

I love mine when cold. Everything feels sensitive, fragile, like it needs mothering and nuturing until it "wakes" up/warms up. The smallest adjustment to the throttle sees pedestrians running out of the road thinking they're gonna get run over :lol: kangarooing as you pull away and everyone already looking... not something for everyone I guess but I love it

Mines never felt like it's gonna cut out though.

Kinda have to agree with ya there!!

 

[gsidave]

Aye, mine does the same. Moving off, it's fine until the revs hit about 2/2.5k and it's as if it's oil has been replaced with treacle. Car just bogs down.

Fine after a couple of minutes though easy remedy....DON'T REV THE NUTS OFF IT FROM COLD! :lol:

When mine was new I never felt it do this once it had some miles on and the oil thinkerns up from cold it's started doing it. Has anybody who has had an oil and filter change noticed the difference ? Gonna change my oil next month now anyway.

 

[Sam]

Mine leap-frogs everywhere when it's cold, when I hit around 2000rpm (I don't have a rev counter, but I know by the tone of the engine, lol).

Also starting to find steaming up an issue first thing in the morning now. Steams up so quickly.
Although in the winter months, it ices over during the day, probably because the office I work at is in the middle of nowhere situated in the countryside lol, still annoying when I finish work and have to spend a good 5 minutes deicing the windscreen.

 

[frediiii]

that's because of the car being environmental friendly. the ECU is set to get the catalytic converter to operating temperature as fast as possible. this is achieved by retarding the ignition so the mixture is already on it's way out through the valve to the manifold when it's been ignited. this heats up the cat quite fast, but until then the engine can't produce any power because there's no compression at ignition time.

only way to get around that is a remap. i have a map from henk (fastchip.nl) which has this preheating procedure mapped out. 10 seconds running and all is fine.

 

[1975DCS]

Yes, I have a remap and it is much better now...

 

[weebob]

Took mine back to Renault, they changed the map on the car to a new one and pretty much all the cold start problems have gone

 

[1975DCS]

Really? When I bought the car 2 months ago, they changed for the latest software, but still I had cold start problems, it could be even worse before, I don't know...

 

[weebob]

Yup. Apparently they couldn't tell which map was on it (if it was the same as when it rolled off the production line) but there was a newer map available. All the lurching about is now gone.

 

[frediiii]

true, they did improve it with a later version of the stock map. I got that in 2009 and it was helping. but really gone it was only since the remap from fastchip.nl

 

[dempsej]

I've collected my new Twingo 133 in june 2011, and it has the same problem, but only for about 30-40 seconds od so (while manuvering on parking). Then it heats up and everything is OK.
Been a bit worried, as this reminds me old cars with carburtators, and this is brand new car - feels like it get too much fuel (too rich mixture), but what frediiii said seems legit, and it has calmed me down ;]
F... Y.. ecoterrorists!

Anyway, You say, that soft that you get with RSTuner, sorts it out?

 

[matbry01]

Mine just does not want to go just coughs and splutters no power **** all when warm just get plenty of grunt.

 

[1975DCS]

With the mapping it's much better, not solved 100 %, but much better! And when warm and gently driving away at the traffic lights, much less engine stalling and nose diving...

 

[gsidave]

Well I've changed my oil, then as the cold weather came its more noticeable than ever lol. It has to be a euro emissions reg thing.

 

[singlespeed]

-3'c this morning and ran fine. Only a slight bit of hesitancy at first but I wouldn't be ragging it at that temp anyway