Vague, Light steering... Any ideas?!

[LCplParks]

Cheap tyres are fine to be fair as long as you drive like you've got cheap tyres on you shouldn't run into much trouble

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Very true... They aren't boasting to be performance tyres so yea I agree, but driving normally (if not slower than most drivers) around a roundabout near my work place, I got heavy understeer which was totally unprepared for, so I'm hoping that with the tracking done now that it sticks better, even on budget tyres

 

[waitey]

Budgets and roundabout at any speed is a ditch magnet, get some good tyres and it will be a lot safer and better to drive especially in this freezing cold weather you're ****** if you have budgets

 

[Brad133]

Your not ****** at all if you have budgets, I've lasted the last 2 years in the snow on budgets, just drive safe

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Just been on a drive in mixed driving conditions, motorway, country lanes and roundabouts... Still getting a weird experience when accelerating where the car feels like it's only gripping properly on one wheel. Just throwing ideas out there has anyone experienced any differential problems on twingos?

Any more help would be awesome

 

[singlespeed]

Just been on a drive in mixed driving conditions, motorway, country lanes and roundabouts... Still getting a weird experience when accelerating where the car feels like it's only gripping properly on one wheel. Just throwing ideas out there has anyone experienced any differential problems on twingos?

Any more help would be awesome

Its only a standard open diff. Nothing fancy going on to balance the torque, hence it will find the easiest way out, spinning the wheel with no/less grip.

Being as youve got part worn tyres (Fulda Montero), are they both actually the same?

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Yea I make sure I get pairs at the very least. Hmm I'd love for someone to drive it to see what they think haha it's hard explaining in writing.

Thanks for the help

 

[oscar]

find yourself on the motorway kind of wandering all over the road man and feel like you are always constantly correcting the straight line?

 

[scottmainwaring01]

It has got more planted now the wheels have been corrected, but yea it's like there that bit in the middle where it's really light still

 

[singlespeed]

I think your probably expecting too much from a relative budget winter tyre. Soft rubber and more sipes (small cuts in the tread block) compared to an all season tyre will always feel vague as theres so much movement in the tread.

There winter touring tyres , intended to keep you moving in the snow and icy conditions, not to be a match for decent rubber for lapping the local roundabouts.

You could always try slowing down and driving at a speed appropriate to the car and conditions

 

[scottmainwaring01]

The whole point of me coming on here was to discuss a problem on the car. Not to be told how to drive, when I'm looking for symptoms it's quite obvious I'm going to test the car. As I already said, I know they are winter tyres but it's not just the fact that it understeers, it's the way the whole suspension feels and steering feels in certain circumstances,

Thanks for your advice though

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Just to add I had continental premium contacts on before the winter tyres... Symptoms have been the same with every tyre I've had on the front so far.

 

[singlespeed]

Just to add I had continental premium contacts on before the winter tyres... Symptoms have been the same with every tyre I've had on the front so far.

And, thats the first time you have mentioned the symptom being the same with different tyres, so for some reason, I was thinking it was a recent problem since fitting these winters :roll:

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Okay my bad,
Cheers for getting back to me

 

[singlespeed]

If the Kwikfit place originally said your front tracking wasn't bad, yet when you had it adjusted, it was actually toe in (difficult to say as you haven't elaborated with numbers).. Maybe theres wear in the steering, so the steering angle at the wheel can wander independent to the steering wheel and one wheel independent of the other. That would give the same effect as an old Land Rover.

Inner track rods and/or outer balljoints worn.
Front wishbone inner bushes worn.

Also, check the lower balljoints for wear but being a non RS and not complaining of a knocking noise, its probably not the issue.

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Yea there's no knocking so I was a bit sceptic about it being ball joints, although I'm not really sure how to check for wear? The wheel has no play when I move it side to side and the boots are in good order too.

 

[singlespeed]

Yea there's no knocking so I was a bit sceptic about it being ball joints, although I'm not really sure how to check for wear? The wheel has no play when I move it side to side and the boots are in good order too.

When you say the wheel has no play, side to side, I take it when you move the steering wheel, both wheels move without any free play or lag between them.

 

[scottmainwaring01]

Yea and also when moving the wheels manually and I watch the steering wheel, as soon as I move the wheel, the steering wheel also moves.

 

[singlespeed]

Tyre pressures as per the door sticker?

Rear shocks. Any sign of them leaking as they completely screw up the handling when they are gone

 

[scottmainwaring01]

I check the tyre pressures regularly, and I haven't checked the rears actually thasba good shout!
Cheers bud